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“By gender freedom, I do not mean we all get to choose our gender. Rather, we get to make a political claim to live freely and without fear of discrimination and violence against the genders that we are. Many people who were assigned “female” at birth never felt at home with that assignment, and those people (including me) tell all of us something important about the constraints of traditional gender norms for many who fall outside its terms”
- Judith Butler

newstatesman.com/international

(CW for the linked interview in that the interviewer is “gender critical”... but also recommended if you want to see her getting increasingly frustrated by a thoughtful interviewee who’s having none of it.)

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@ghost_bird that interviewer is so hateful. It was satisfying that Butler didn't let her get away with positioning TERF bullshit as mainstream though. And very eloquently, too.

Honestly the interviewer's questions were so slimy. 🤢

@vicorva That’s what the New Statesman’s like these days, I’m afraid. I remember the Twitter fights that started them heading that way, eight or nine years ago :-(

@vicorva Agreed. And it makes me sad to see it so prevalent in British journalism.

@ghost_bird @vicorva My Spouse and a friend or two have called it The New Transphobe for years.

@ghost_bird I spent a while reading that article trying to figure out if the interviewer was just setting up easy targets for Butler to take down, or if she really bought the tired bullshit she was regurgitating, but... no, that interviewer chump was really trying her best, wasn't she?

@elsilnora She really was. The New Statesman hasn’t dealt well with the changing times, to say the least.

@ghost_bird I'm trying to figure out if I want to read it as I don't wanna give NS clicks...but I do love a good owning, especially from one of my early academic heroes.

@rhiannonrevolts I use a lot of ad blocking so I’m less worried about giving them clicks... and it is a good owning, if you can stand the awful interviewer.

@ghost_bird wow Judith Butler is so eloquent. I makes me want to read her book. Thanks for sharing this article.

@conatus Glad you liked it - but be warned: Gender Trouble is very good, but it’s very dense and academic. Not easy reading.

@ghost_bird Haha, I'll take that in mind, honestly the quote about equalty being based on interdependency made me very qurious about the new book she mentioned in the end, so I might start there, maybe? (I honestly have so much to read, that I'm not sure I will every get to it, but still, a writer to pay closer attention to for sure.)

@conatus I should try her new book myself - I get the impression her writing’s become more accessible over the years. (Though she’s always been smart and eloquent.)

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